In secret, under the very nose of the Empire, the Thalmor have worked silently to reforge the Alderi Dominion. A new alliance between the Thalmor, Valenwood, Elsweyr, the Black Marsh, and the remnants of Morrowind is now poised to seize all of Tamriel. Hammerfell has fallen, and Cyrodiil is on the verge of collapse. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled 'Are the 'Fight Against The Thalmor' mods recommended?'
The purpose of this quest I think is to make you question which is the right option to take.It is intentionally unclear.My logic was this:. The Alik'r were shunned by Whiterun, that's saying something. Perhaps they have a bad reputation for being dirty mercenaries. It is more likely that an individual spoke out against an organization rather than one individual causing the fall of Taneth. The Aldmeri have always been able to win fights without the assistance of individuals, especially noble women, who may or may not have access to military secrets. If she had caused the downfall of Taneth, why would she hide outside of Aldmeri territory?
She could be easily protected elsewhere.I did see this though:If you accept Kematu's request and help him capture Saadia, you mayencounter a group of Thalmor Justiciars in the wild that carry aJusticiar Execution Order with your race and name. This may indicatethat Kematu might have been telling the truth and that Saadia truly was atraitor (source needed, Justiciar Execution Orders are normally issuedbecause of the assault on the Thalmor Embassy in the main questline).Source.
Kematu might be telling the truth. The first time you talk to Saadia, she pulls a knife on you. While this may seem like an act of desperate defiance, it may hint at a violent and unpredictable personality.
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Saadia seems hesitant to explain the full situation, while Kematu elaborates on it fully. Is Saadia's reticence due to her guilt?. The man you can free from jail seems strangely honourable, saying he has shamed his companions and wants to begin anew. If Kematu really was an assassin, why paralyse her at the end of the quest - why not just stab her and be done with it? He also mentions justice, and taking her into custody, and implies that Saadia will face a trial back in Hammerfell rather than swift execution. All this points to him and his warriors being enforcers rather than assassins.
Kematu's opening line - 'We can avoid any more bloodshed.' And his closing lines which imply that Saadia is known for her manipulation of people. The in game book refers to Alik'r warriors harassing the Aldermi Dominion forces as they retreated. This would make the dominion hiring them most strange. It is then important to consider this: Is hiring Redgaurd assassins the style of the Dominion?
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They have a certain level of free reign within the Empire. Why would they need to hire human assassins to kill someone? They have the Justiciars doing that for the Thalmor. Saadia specifically wants you go and kill Kematu. Why does she want that? The Alik'r are not allowed in the city, so for now she is perfectly safe.For these reasons I almost always end up siding with Kematu. 1) Saadia is on her own, hiding and being hunted.
Pulling a knife is what anyone would do. 2) Same 3-4) Kematu doesn't have to know he's lying. He might just be hired and loyal to who hired him. 5) Of course he'd prefer no bloodshed. They're already not liked in Whiterun. You catch more flies with honey.
7) There's no guarantee the Alik'r won't ever be allowed in, or be able to force their way in. Not saying you're wrong, only that there's a secondary explanation for everything, even if only so as to get you convinced to take their side.–May 20 '15 at 10:25. There is no way to verify one or the other as it currently stands in the game. But here is my take on it for judging the character. Saadia actually puts the weapon away when you ask her to. The Alik'r pretty much are going to kill you unless you give them Saadia.
The Alik'r are also ousted from entering Whiterun. For some reason I would imagine?So based on that, I usually go with Saadia if I am being a relatively 'good' person. Or if I just want all the Alik'r gear to dress up manikins with:).
Okay, here's the facts: Whiterun kicked out Kematu's boys and imprisoned one of their members. In addition one of the bandits at the beginning of the cave say he doesn't like the Alik'r around, while his friend says something like don't complain unless you want a knife in the back. That's pretty compelling evidence against them in my book.Then, after you slaughter them, Kematu tries his hand at smooth talking, and constantly calls Saadia a liar. Billie eilish dont smile at me download. Anyone that bases their point solely on another person being a liar, well that's just very dodgy straight off the bat.As Slade said here, her urn is in Whiterun, if you side with Kematu, meaning that while she might be taken back alive, she gets an execution at some point. And as stated, the Thalmor don't have the right to just kidnap people in Skyrim, they would have to hire someone else to capture her. This is why I believe Saadia.So to break it down, Kematu's Alik'r are mercenaries that made 2 groups feel threatened, they were most likely hired by the Thalmor to capture Saadia and bring her back, and Kematu lies to you out of desperation in the cave, after you've destroyed his forces.
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Side with the Alik'r and Saadia will be executed.I'm going with Saadia, she's not hanging out in a damn cave, even that is pretty friggin suspicious! I thought this was pretty black and white at first, and sided with Kematu, but as someone previously stated, you find Saadia's burial urn in the hall of the dead in Whiterun.
She was supposed to be taken back alive for a trial. One thing that also bothered me was that to find out where Kematu is, you have to visit the Whiterun prison to talk to a captured Alik'r. He never really tells you why he was captured, he just says he has shamed the Alik'r for being captured, they are supposed to be 'the best of the best' he says.
Best at what? Wishing I hadn't turned her over, but oh well, I don't know if I could have beaten that many Alik'r warriors anyway. Just looking at what they were packing - they had curved swords.
The civil war for Skyrim is over, but the victor has been left bloody and the province is in chaos. Whiterun is slow to recover. Rumors of a new threat are seeping their way into every tavern and hold in Skyrim. Dark agents have been seen in the countryside and now the Jarl of Falkreath has been murdered.It will be too late before the terrible truth of what is really happening is realized, and Skyrim and the Empire will pay the ultimate price for allowing the civil war to distract them from the real crisis.In secret, under the very nose of the Empire, the Thalmor have worked silently to reforge the Alderi Dominion. A new alliance between the Thalmor, Valenwood, Elsweyr, the Black Marsh, and the remnants of Morrowind is now poised to seize all of Tamriel. Hammerfell has fallen, and Cyrodiil is on the verge of collapse.
Only Skyrim is left to preserve the free peoples of Tamriel.